An interview with N.T. Wright.
Frank Viola interviews Christian Smith.
Remembering Jamie Buckingham.
(HT for video to Christian Nightmares)
More from Thabiti Anyabwile on his journey from Islam to agnosticism to Jesus.
If you have, or know someone who has, a child with Down’s Syndrome, this website might be of interest.
What happens to Christians when they die?
616 – the number of the Beast?
Vicky Beeching disagrees with giving up social media for Lent.
Phil Cooke on the ten myths about Hollywood.
Tullian Tchividjian on Biblical balance.
Eugene Cho: “I don’t want to think of it (Lent) as a giving up but rather a season of more deeply ‘giving in’ or ‘giving to’…”
Wanda Martin: Is church discipline getting a bad rap?
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A friend of mine who dug into the manuscript evidence a bit told me that some rare manuscripts have 646. I’ve read preterist/historicist scholars point out that the variants in the number, when you factor in the numeric equivalencies ascribed to Greek letters, end up pointing to Nero in variant spellings. Had I heard about this school of thought when I was a young and impressionable Pentecostal kid I wouldn’t have lain awake one night trying to figure out whether my name added up to the number of the Beast. I mean, I would have, but it would have been due to a simple sleeping disorder and not anxiety about possibly being the Antichrist.
Who is this prophecy idiot…
How did this guy get a gig.
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/01/the-ridiculist-william-tapley/
But the point here is that one cannot simply appeal to the earliest manuscript and assume that the case is settled. Textual criticism is not done in such a simplistic manner. Date is indeed important, but there are several other factors involved.
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Amen, Dr. Wallace.
And speaking of textual discovery…
Have you all heard about the find from Mark’s Gospel – if true it would be possibly the oldest manuscript ever discovered – and the only portion from a 1st century manuscript. Ever.
Soon as I hit ‘submit’ I shouted ‘Come Back!’
Here is the link that should have been included.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markdroberts/2012/02/21/have-scholars-discovered-the-oldest-manuscript-of-the-new-testament/
I keep thinking – “Third Eye of the Apocalypse.”
Third Eagle: “Four is an end times number.”
…..Favre?
WHITney HOUSton = WHITe HOUSe
If only Christian TV were this entertaining
Whitney – born on Aug 9 died Feb 11 = 9/11
I gave up…Obama and end times and WW III and destruction of America and the remnant of the Catholic church…a bit out there tonight…
William Tapley is mild compared to some of the end time stuff I have heard spewed out in my time as a “Christian”. He really is not any more ridiculous then the left behind series or some of the Paretti books, when taken as gospel, etc. Now Tapley does not have the marketing base as the others which makes his work irrelevant but if he did it would be valid in direct relation to how much money he made from it.
Tapley may be a little extreme, but he sounds like all the CC teachers I heard in the 80s – and I heard them all. The tactic is the same, make a claim, never give an explanation and keep moving on..
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“The daughters of Babylon” is the US?
“Four” is Obama’s number?
This stuff is not new. I will say, that those teachers of yore would not use a trivial subject like Whitney Houston, but just replace her with some geo political event and the conversation could be the same.
Those were some great, but now embarrassing teachings.
Thanks for the Down syndrome blog tip…it looks like I may be doing a guest blog for them!
I made it through 3:35 of the Tapley video. Can anyone beat that?
Josh…not hardly…I don’t think I made it to a minute.
Check out my new wrestling blog at http://kayfabe-kayfabedreams.blogspot.com/
Solomon, I’m a huge old-school wrestling fan. I’ll check it out for sure!
Well SolRod can’t be all bad if he likes RASSLIN like I do.
Seriously, my opinion of him has improved greatly!
Hugh Hewiit has a pretty big radio show. Mostly politics. However, he interviewed Dr. Wallace on the newest textual discoveries and the transcript is here…
http://www.hughhewitt.com/transcripts.aspx?id=2ae35594-18e1-4776-bd4a-ca8f77c4deb6
I’ll try to have part two done next week
pro-wresting?
since i go back to the limited choices of viewing in early days of television (1946), i used to watch my godly, dignified grandmother in the privacy of her own living room watch pro-wrestling and acting like she was at ringside in the battle between good and evil
i attended a couple times in San Diego with my mother and her friend when i was about 14 years old – Gorgeous George was probably on the card, but i was sooo bored – what amused me was studying the crowd, the phenomena of all these adults going nuts over other really strange adults jumping around and bouncing off of each other like apes . . . i have a genetic defect i guess . . .
AV,
I’ve tried to listen to Hugh — but every time I do, for some reason, my left knee starts jerking uncontrollably.
Any advice?
AV,
I can’t wait to get more information on these newly discovered ancient manuscripts. It sounds like the Mark fragment is just a few verses, so it is unlikely that it will be of a passage that contains disputed variant readings, like the end of Mark 16, but it would be great if it varies from, or supports, the majority text. It also sounds like this collection contains another early reference to Hebrews as being Paulline. I love it when experts turn out to be wrong.
Ah yes. Pro Wrestling. The early stages of the radical homosexual agenda. Creepy.
Is the third eagle of the apocalypse his pro wrestling name too?
i guess i should leave #25 alone . . . i think, however, that narcissism predates pro-wrestling . . . any place that allows showing off seems to draw those folk . . . and furthermore, since i’m doing another opinion dump
i think that we’ve got things a little mixed up in reacting to the spread of homosexual attraction . . . yes, God leaves no room for condoning it, but i suspect that we are missing the point non-the-less – IMO, it is a sin that measures the health of a society – perhaps, the rest of us should be grateful that our time in the decline is now – that it is a warning to us that it precedes a Western manifestation of Wahhabism in the slide
is that political? didn’t mean it to be . . . thinking about our focus and our discussions staying centered in the True eternal Celebrity, our Lord Jesus – The Christ and coming King . . . guess that’s political . . .. sigh
From Wenatchee Hatchet’s link about Wendy Alsup’s review: “As I’ve been saying for years folks can be pretty gracious and forgiving if you can simply admit you did something or said something stupid.”
Priceless.
“Ah yes. Pro Wrestling. The early stages of the radical homosexual agenda. Creepy.”
Hahhah.
Come on. Barely clothed, oiled-up musclemen, rolling around on top of each other.
What’s gay about that?
Woops, that was s’posed to be on Linkathon 1. Sorry for making the thread tangled.
Em,
You are correct that narcissism predates pro wrestling, as does homosexuality, of course. And I’m not someone who is crusading against homosexuality. I see it as just another sin. My only crusade is for the Gospel.
But the overt, flamboyant, feminizing nature of pro wrestling is certainly socially significant in a growing acceptance of the radical homosexual agenda. (And I am distinguishing between the overtly flamboyant segments of the homosexual community, and the vast majority of homosexuals who are not represented by the radical extremists.) Other than the trailblazer Liberace, the first men to publicly parade in glittery women’s clothing, with feather boa’s, gobs of makeup, painted nails, masks etc. were not members of ACT UP, they were pro wrestlers. And somehow society never objected. In fact, society doled out millions of dollars to watch these androgynous drug abusers frolic together on a mat. By the time the wrestlers became blatantly homosexual (Golddust and others) it was barely controversial. Now, as ex-wives of people like Hulk Hogan are telling about the homosexual activity of the top wrestlers, it barely makes a ripple. This is a textbook case of social change.
D.R., i’m glad you elaborated on your #25 – excellent, informative assessment IMHO
I listened to dividing line talking about the Caner brothers and the hype about one of them being an x jehadist (sp) etc. I dont get it, playing the conversion card is part and parcel of being an evangelical showman, then going on the circus um I mean circuit and making the rounds. You all know me I would never fault someone for how they make a living, Cash is King, I wish I would have learned that and I am deeply ashamed that I have not. But Dr. White was going on about the evangelical cover-up and such.
Personally I see no difference between the hyperbole used by Caner and that used my Macarthur when he says there is absolutely no evidence to support the ToE or an old earth creation and that evolution is used to take God out of the picture. One may disagree with the evidence even call it contradictory but to say there is none what so ever is the same type of exaggeration imho.
Dave Rolph said;
“You are correct that narcissism predates pro wrestling, as does homosexuality, of course. And I’m not someone who is crusading against homosexuality. I see it as just another sin. My only crusade is for the Gospel.
But the overt, flamboyant, feminizing nature of pro wrestling is certainly socially significant in a growing acceptance of the radical homosexual agenda. (And I am distinguishing between the overtly flamboyant segments of the homosexual community, and the vast majority of homosexuals who are not represented by the radical extremists.) Other than the trailblazer Liberace, the first men to publicly parade in glittery women’s clothing, with feather boa’s, gobs of makeup, painted nails, masks etc. were not members of ACT UP, they were pro wrestlers. And somehow society never objected. In fact, society doled out millions of dollars to watch these androgynous drug abusers frolic together on a mat. By the time the wrestlers became blatantly homosexual (Golddust and others) it was barely controversial. Now, as ex-wives of people like Hulk Hogan are telling about the homosexual activity of the top wrestlers, it barely makes a ripple. This is a textbook case of social change.”
I’m a fan of the 50′s-late 80′s wrestling where the smut wasn’t what it is in today’s product. Of course there have always been characters that have exhibited effeminate qualities such as ‘Gorgeous” George, “The Exotic” Adrian Street and “The Adorable” Adrian Adonis. Pro Wrestling was not accepting of homosexuals the same as any other facet of society during the Kayfabe years (pre 90′s). Of course behind the scenes you had guys like Pat Patterson and Jim Barnett that were open about it. The WWF also had a scandal in the early 90′s where some ring boys were molested by a ring announcer and Pat Patterson himself who was the lead booker. Jim Wilson also wrote a great book called “Chokehold” detailing how he was blackballed from the industry after he refused the advances of Georgia Championship Wrestling promoter Jim Barnett. The story goes that Jim was promised a run with the NWA World title in exchange for relations with Barnett. Most don’t believe Jim’s story as he really did not have any talent for the business. The reason so much of what went on in Pro Wrestling went unnoticed is because it was a sub culture and not part of the mainstream. This actually worked to Wrestling’s advantage as they were able to push angles that were edgy and the mainstream didn’t really care as they didn’t take wrestling seriously. The behind the scenes politics of Pro Wrestling is almost as interesting as what goes on in the ring. It’s pretty much similar to going to a movie, you suspend your disbelief.
William Tapley is my new hero.
Reuben,
I am off to buy some property in Montana, and a few pallets of MREs. You in?
Homosexuals have been in pro wrestling just as they have in any other part of society. I’ve read stuff about certain people in the WWF in the ’80s and early ’90s, and about certain people in the Tennessee area in the 90′s and ’00s being gay. I would not go so far as to say the entire industry is gay, or homoerotic: in my limited reading about wrestling, many of the old-style territories would not have tolerated such activity overtly, or covertly.
Reuben, as long as Third Eagle brings his keyboard. We’ll need entertainment between the plagues and the breaking of the seals.
BrianD, deal!
http://youtu.be/RLQESOuU-yI
I have always thought that the horse at DIA’s entrance was a horse of the apocalypse. BrianD, if we could get Anderson Cooper to hang out in Montana too, that would be cool. I will order up two more pallets of MREs.
Good idea. And make sure you load up on the ammo.
BrianD…thanks for including the Noah’s Dad/Down Syndrome link. This is useful information for parents and friends. My brother-in-law has Down Syndrome, though is well-past the phase addressed on the Noah’s Dad blog.
OK first someone told me the WWF wasn’t real and now your telling me their all gay? My life is ruined I have nothing left to live for.
Now this is working the business from one of the masters.
http://youtu.be/sthm3vH6ixY
I for one will not stand for Dave identfying my women midget wrestlers with homosexuals!!
http://vintagejacksonville.net/2010/11/25/women-midget-wrestling/
I found the comments discussion on the “what happens with Christians dies?” article very interesting. Lots of views I am not familiar with. However, after reading them for a while I started feeling like I do when I am watching a “Back to the future” movie. Thinking about time and transcending time tend to blow my mind. But it was a great discussion!
Phil Cooke is an interesting perspective. Sort of turned my view of things a smidge there…
what happens when a child of God dies? well . . . the giants of the faith will receive their very large resurrection bodies and the midgets of faith will receive very small ones, so the question is, will we all live together in a new heavens and earth or will there be giant earths for the giants of the faith so that they don’t have to be concerned about stepping on the very small resurrection bodies of the saints of little faith . . . guess i’d better wrestle with this thread again
it was an interesting read, but i’m content with what Rev 6:9-11 implies – we’re there waiting (the martyred not doing so all that patiently it looks like)
Thanks for posting the link to our website. How did you find out about us? (I’m always curious to learn where people hear about what we are doing.) We are putting up a daily one minute video to show the world what life is like raising a child born with Down syndrome.
The great BrianD has his eyes on all corners of the blogging universe.
I want to say Boing Boing but I don’t quite remember…